Overnight 12 hours? The bottom end was tight, but not all that expressive. It bit too tight, so to speak. A did another overnight and things got better, but not dramatically. The top end was not unlistenable with most material, but occasionally I'd hear a bright recording which would be a bit too much. I then listened sporadically and there wasn't all that much more improvement.
I was thinking that with all the stuff they did right, it offset the flaws. I then decided to do some more serious breaking in, about four days worth of breaking in with the same two CDs.
What I noticed after that period was what I wrote above. There is a passage where a flute and trumpet play in unison deep in the orchestral stage. There had been an edge to the sound which brought out the metallic aspect of the instruments, plus it was hard to distinguish the two instruments. After this recent period of break-in, I noticed that the metallic aspect to the instruments had receded quite a bit. Instead, I heard more of the resonant aspects to the two instruments and the two instruments were now distinct from each other.
By the way, this is an example of how I listen. This new experience has nothing to do with excitement. I had previously noticed how the instruments were not all that individually distinct. I also noticed that along with the more relaxed top end, the soundstage appeared deeper. Additionally, I started to notice that I could place individual soloists more distinctly left to right. Bass drums now started to have real impact rather than sound thumpy. I am now hearing more of that quality. So all in all, there is more depth, nuance and sophistication happening with these than there had been.
I can absolutely see, though, because of how revealing they are, how the top end could be too much for some. I feel bad for those who give up on them too soon, though, without really giving them a full breaking in. Again, I'm not sure if simply playing them with any old music and any old source will do them justice.
By the way, regarding the color remark, I can pick out shade and hue differences repeatedly that my wife can't do, and she's not color-blind. For some reason, there are particular senses where I'm wired with great sensitivity. I could have sworn I heard a difference on my used and well broken in DT for example after some hours or after giving them a second listen. Both sounded good right out of the box, but I think they got slightly warmer, less bright, after about 24 hours of play.
Very slight change though. I am not a huge believer in the break-in period idea. Location: Bay Area. GREAT headphones. Please keep us posted on your impressions. What ya using it with? HiFiGuy , Dec 24, You may notice some break-in over the first 40 hours or so. I think how much break-in you hear may depend on how tuned in and experienced you are with the Grado sound.
The Grado sound has some unique artifacts and characteristics. I think much of the break-in may have to do with how those sonic artifacts change and interact with each other during the break-in period.
If you're experienced with the Grado sound you are more likely to notice those things changing. The primary artifacts are ringing at 2K 4K and 5K. The 2K ringing causes "shoutyness". The 4K and 5K ringing cause some changes in some spacial aspects of the sound. Secondary changes may also be noticed in bass getting fuller or more extended or treble getting clearer or less harsh. Enjoy the new headphones. Let us know if you do notice some break-in changes.
That's part of the fun of getting brand new Grados rather than used Grados. Ham Sandwich , Dec 24, Location: in the heart of Germany. It really depends if and how long break-in is necessary or beneficial; in general it is a very good way to avoid unnecessary frustration, not being too critical with the performance of a brand new piece of gear esp.
There is some electrical synergie going on with the headphone-amp, too. Since the chassis of speakers speakers need some time to relax something similar is going on with the chassis inside the cans too. So just play them non stop over night for a week or so and do not listen too critical unless you really know how the cans do sound.
This can take longer than one might expect! Baron Von Talbot , Dec 24, An update on my Grado SR 80i's. Thanks for the info from you all. And I did spring for the Grado 15' ext. Just to be sure, according to Grado what went in, came out, the same. Nice cable! Just recently, I purchased the Headband cushion comfort pad thru Amazon.
C'mon , they have a very thin metal band in the head piece. So, anyway, the Headband cushion really helps! That's all I'm saying! Robker51 , Sep 27, Did you notice any audible changes during break-in? The Grado extension cable is a good reaonsably priced cable. Better than the RadioShack extension cable. The RS cable causes more crosstalk and signal loss. The difference is audible.
More audible when using the LCD-2 than the Grados, but still there. I think the crosstalk is the biggest issue with the RS cable, causing smaller soundstage. They'll fit on the SR just fine. Messages: Location: America. FrankyF , Aug 12, Messages: 3. Bringing up an old thread, but how would one know if these voice coils have burned out?
I did break-in on my RS2. About hours a day, on random days throughout a week or so. Even though the break-in helped immensely, my ears and head tire of using my RS2. Maybe I'm just not cut out for it? Might be rash to compare the two, but my Koss Porta Pro has a more pleasant characteristic, at least that they're smooth.
Quality is wayyyy below, but these I don't tire of so easily. Is this just because of inherent difference, and I'm just meant for some other headphones? Messages: Burned out? You would get no sound coming out of one or both of the drivers. But, letting sound run through the drivers for extended periods of time at high volume can cause the voice coils to overheat and deform. Depending on the design of the speaker, if the coil deforms too much, it can start to rub the insides of the voice coil gap and cause distortion or ghost notes to form in the music.
Same holds true for hifi and instrument speakers as well. If you listen to a speaker that has a voice coil rub for too long, it can actually rub right through the conductors in the voice coil and, poof I just picked up a pair of RS1i's from another AK'er here, and through all of the sources I have to plug them into, they are almost unlistenable without some eq'ing. It doesn't take much, but I find I have to roll off the highest end of the highs, a bit of the mids around 1k, and boost the lowest end of the bass.
Again, not too much, but it makes a HUGE difference in listenability and general fatigue. They do take eq'ing really well and sound friggin amazing once dialed in. Re: Grado Tue Jun 14, pm ludi wrote: Ned - I try to be pragmatic; I think people can and should pick the experience they enjoy the most, whether for technical reasons or otherwise. Re: Grado Tue Jun 14, pm Just for giggles and to annoy Slowriot , i went to the most recent Stereophile Recommended Components List with the intent to build the most expensive system I could.
Here's what you get: Code: Select all. Mr Bill Gerbil Jedi. There is a fixed amount of intelligence on the planet, and the population keeps growing :. Wonders Gerbil. Their presence attributes help with positioning in VR to an impressive degree I currently work as an audio programmer on a VR title , which adds another cool dimension to the room-scale experience.
I consider the GS's my favorite and most cost-effective audio equipment purchase I've made, since they've given me years of scarcely-matched performance. They took several weeks burn in, but looking back now that seems like the blink of an eye. Convert Grand Gerbil Poohbah. Re: Grado Tue Jun 14, pm Grado's are good but the "burn in" was always bunk for me. It was more about the brain simply adjusting to them more than them being broken in.
My friend is a huge Grado fan, I've listened to a few of his sets before and after burn in and there wasn't a noticeable improvement. When I wear my Sennheisers while burning them in, my brain thinks they sound better, but my logical side doesn't believe it. For me I can't stand the on-ear design of Grado's and I've never considered them "superior".
Different, but not better. I've stuck with Sennheiser since and have no regrets. They feel like a "cheap" plastic and have these scrawny ball joints to hold the headphones to the band. I travel with them. They've never broken. I've broken many headsets in my life but somehow these and all the other Sennheisers have stayed together.
They are so old the paint is rubbed off in several areas and the cushion is missing the fake leather look. I drop them on concrete every few months. It really boggles my mind that something so cheap looking could survive so long.
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